Welcome to Generation Swap, a project and podcast about connecting across all stages of life.
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No doubt you’ve heard of a ‘generation gap,’ but what’s a Generation Swap?
It’s a place where mentors and mentees — we call them Swapmates — come together to talk about goals, passions, and values, bringing out the full potential in each other. Rather than focusing on what divides us across generations, we explore all the ways in which we’re connected to each other. Don’t have a Swapmate? We’ll give you ideas on how to find one.
We use the term Swapmate — rather than mentor and mentee — because learning is a 2-way street. Swapmates listen, guide, and encourage, helping each other figure out life!
At the same time, this 2-way street has an important detour: research shows that it’s in the second half of life that many people discover their most authentic self, leading to greater life satisfaction.
Generation Swap is part of an Aquinas College class that reaches far beyond the boundaries of our campus. We’re sponsored by the Aquinas Advantage Center. Join us for conversations about the dance of life!
Recent Episodes:
Penny & Jessica
Penny Murray's 72-year life journey is founded on faith. She is blessed with 3 children and 9 grandchildren, satisfied in 44 years of nursing, and partnered today with Steve in the joy of life-long...
Marty & Emma
Marty Arnold taught writing at Aquinas College, was a journalist, editor, and a non-profit administrator. Since retiring she has published two novels and is re-wilding her yard.Emma Pearson is...
Diane & Ashley
Diane Friar was a CPA and worked with a local firm for 37 years, where she became a partner. She worked for many years in litigation support and business valuation, work she greatly enjoyed. She...
Gary & Aidan
Gary Eberle is a professor of English emeritus at Aquinas College. He is the author of eight books of fiction and nonfiction, a two-time recipient of the Teacher of the Year award, and in 2019 was...
Steve & MacKenzie
Steve Murray was born and raised in the Grand Rapids area, and spent his entire life in West Michigan. In retirement he enjoys hanging with the dog, watching grandkids’ sporting events, taking OLLI...
Cindy & Jenna
Cindy Ritter grew up in Detroit and became a dental hygienist at University of Detroit Dental School. She has lived and worked in the Grand Rapids area for 55 years and during this time began her...
Dan & Noah
Dan Measday is a native of New Jersey and a 1970 graduate of Aquinas College. He and his wife celebrated their 50th wedding anniversary in 2022. He is retired after a career in a variety of jobs,...
Bonus Interview: Rick & Suzanne
Rick Armbruster has had a nontraditional career path that has allowed him to focus on family and community. Currently, he is the President & Founder of Upcycle Bikes, providing bikes to...
Bonus Interview: Doug & Kyle
Douglas Kindschi is in his 47th year at Grand Valley State University, where he is the founding director of the Kaufman Interfaith Institute. He previously served as dean for 28 years, mainly as...
Explore the Stories
Values
Eboo Patel
Muslim father teaches lessons about standing up for Jewish friend
career
Gerri Detweiler
Financial advocacy for individuals and small business owners
Mentoring
Nicholas Wolterstorff
3 key questions for figuring out your career path
Relationships
George & Susan Heartwell
The joys and challenges of 48 years of marriage
The Generation Swap Creative Team:
Cindy Kamp
Creator and Host
Dana Hebreard
Career and Connections Expert
John Griffin
Executive Producer
Danielle Kendra
Website Designer
Sean O’Melia
Consultant for All Things Tech
Brigid Avery
Consultant for All Things Creative
Alexandra Stephenson
Social Media Coordinator
Eliza Brown
Mentorship Assistant
Gary Eberle & Lexi Schaub
The Voices of Generation Swap
