Welcome to Generation Swap, a project and podcast about connecting across all stages of life.

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No doubt you’ve heard of a ‘generation gap,’ but what’s a Generation Swap?

It’s a place where mentors and mentees — we call them Swapmates — come together to talk about goals, passions, and values, bringing out the full potential in each other. Rather than focusing on what divides us across generations, we explore all the ways in which we’re connected to each other. Don’t have a Swapmate? We’ll give you ideas on how to find one.

We use the term Swapmate — rather than mentor and mentee — because learning is a 2-way street. Swapmates listen, guide, and encourage, helping each other figure out life!

At the same time, this 2-way street has an important detour: research shows that it’s in the second half of life that many people discover their most authentic self, leading to greater life satisfaction.

Generation Swap is part of an Aquinas College class that reaches far beyond the boundaries of our campus. We’re sponsored by the Aquinas Advantage Center. Join us for conversations about the dance of life!

Recent Episodes:

Dave & Diana

Dave & Diana

Dave Kampfschulte has had a varied career in education, teaching in public schools and as an instructor for the Osher Lifelong Learning Institute (OLLI) at Aquinas College. He is the Director of...

Ann & Hannah

Ann & Hannah

Ann Zoellner is a retired educator who has redesigned her life. She volunteers her time within the Grand Rapids community, including at the Osher Lifelong Learning Institute (OLLI) at Aquinas...

Syd & Katie

Syd & Katie

Syd Baxter is a retired entrepreneur and small business owner. He is passionate about his grandchildren, high school crew, and being an all-around cheerleader and sounding board for young people....

Paul & Eliza

Paul & Eliza

Paul Farr is a retired gastroenterologist who practiced at Saint Mary’s Hospital in Grand Rapids and who loves continued learning at the Osher Lifelong Learning Institute (OLLI) at Aquinas College....

Francine & Kat

Francine & Kat

Francine Paolini recently retired from Aquinas College where she worked in the library. For many years she was part of a women’s vocal group and performed Motown and other music. She enjoys yoga,...

Sue & Kaleese

Sue & Kaleese

Sue Miller taught Latin and English in Grand Rapids area high schools. She loves to travel and has led school groups in Italy and other European countries. She enjoys yoga, walking, and watching...

Dave & Grace

Dave & Grace

Dave Kampfschulte is a presenter and facilitator at Amazing Circles Workshops. Formerly a teacher in the public school system, he loves working with people of all ages. He has also been a hospice...

Susan & Nicole

Susan & Nicole

Susan Kohloff works part time at the Osher Lifelong Leaning Institute after a long career with the Michigan Department of Corrections. She is passionate about animals and is involved with Paws with...

Ann & Isabel

Ann & Isabel

Ann Zoellner worked as a speech pathologist, special education teacher and consultant. She has a Master’s degree from Michigan State University and a Special Education Supervisor certification from...

Explore the Stories

Values

Eboo Patel

Muslim father teaches lessons about standing up for Jewish friend

career

Gerri Detweiler

Financial advocacy for individuals and small business owners

Mentoring

Nicholas Wolterstorff

3 key questions for figuring out your career path

Relationships

George & Susan Heartwell

The joys and challenges of 48 years of marriage

The Generation Swap Creative Team:

Cindy Kamp

Creator and Host

Gary Eberle

Cohost and Program Director

John Griffin

Executive Producer

Dana Hebreard

Career and Connections Expert

Brigid Avery

Consultant for All Things Creative

Sean O’Melia

Consultant for All Things Tech

Gary Eberle & Lexi Schaub

The Voices of Generation Swap

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